Monday, June 24, 2013

Tritrogs May meeting


Attendance
Howard Holgate
Mike Williams
Mike Broome
Mathew Weiss
Ken Walsh
Michael Caslan
Robert Harris
Rachel Weinstock
Carlin Kartchner
Lisa Lorinzen
Peter Hertl
Martin G.
Old Business -- None
New Business
-TriTrogs Calendar -- A new one will be made, invitation of photo submissions is out.
- Grotto Trip - Need to determine a location
    Action: Lisa will contact Butler Cave
Trip Reports
- Ken, Weiss, and Lubin: Worley's Cave, TN -- photography trip
- Mike, Lisa, Peter, and Rob: Ram's Head vertical practice (not really a cave trip)
- Pete & Mark: VAR: Sharp's Cave and possibly a connection to My Cave (?)
- Carlin: Horseshoe Cave: Mapped ~ 860 ft, 2 leads left
- Robert & Rachel: Pig Hole, 120 ft entrance drop, through trip
- Mike & Lisa: Butler Cave Preserve, checked a sump, naked caving
- Ken & Martin: New River Cave, survey trip
 Upcoming Trips (All on calendar)
- ACC 35th Reunion: Perkins
- Grotto Trip
- Convention: Pennsylvania
- New River: June 8
Program
An  in depth look at the VBATS Mexico expedition trip to Golindrinas and other caves was presented by Mike and Lisa through multimedia including videos of rappels.

Monday, April 22, 2013

TriTrogs March 2013 General Meeting


Introductions/Attendees:

Mark Daughtridge, Carlin Kartchner., Ken Walsh., Howard Holgate, Haden Holgate, Andy Koch, Mathew Lubin , Ava Pope

Program Part 1: Tri Trogs Get Loopy
To start the meeting Ken set up a surveying course outside the museum, as people showed up they used instruments and flashlights to complete the course to the best of their abilities. 

Old business:           
We gave the instruments and helmet to Tanya, she was extremely appreciative.  Says thanks to everyone who contributed.
We still need to get a canopy.

New Business:
none

Trip Reports:

Carlin went to orientation to cave rescue, started Friday night through Sunday.  Mock rescue on Sunday, 3 patients needed to be rescued. Carlin was part of the first hasty search team.  Communications were an interesting challenge.  Two patients were unresponsive and the other was supposed to have a broken leg (cursing a lot).  They were in Bundy’s number two cave.  

Ken delivered the Worleys cave map to the landowners.  Followed Carlin around for a little bit in search of Doan’s Cave but gave up and decided to head to Rob and Rachel Weinstock to finish Lover’s Leap survey.  Needed 5 steep shots to get up into the ceiling.  Rob was scared by a spider and screamed in a girly way.  Ken took them down to a dig with a rock hammer, dug it out, there was about a 6 foot drop, Rob went through and came back out, Ken sketched the room.  Outside of the cave there were ~ 30 hawks in the trees, very cool to see. And it was sunny! Mark thinks maybe the hawks were speed dating.  Ken and his group also went to the Saltville Museum in Saltville -- he highly recommends it.

There were 9 of us at Tanya’s that weekend, 4 people went looking for Doan’s but couldn’t find it.  Ava and Tanya talked to landowners early in the day and got permission to survey a small cave that had a giant raccoon in it!  It was super scary.

Andy went to Cumberland caverns a week or two ago, it’s a commercial cave but peaked his interest in caves, big room with music and snack bar, cool formations, there’s a guided walking tour that takes ~ 1 hr.  It’s owned by religious people so at the end there’s a light show with astronauts reading the bible.  The previous evening they did the “adventure tour”, did ~ 2 hr loop.  Saw lots of stuff and it was really cool.  Now him and his friends are excited about caving!

Upcoming trips:

March 29-31 = Easter – Grand Caverns restoration weekend, cleaning formations, regraveling paths, etc. Free lunch, Ken is looking for someone to go with.
May 17-19 = spring VAR

Ken started surveying New River Cave back in the 90s, but now will have the opportunity to finish it up.  Map has been drafted, Ken has been asked to lead trips back in there to clean up and finish up survey, resurvey a little bit.  Going to try to get trips up there the 1st and 3rd weekends of the months. Hopefully the first trip will be in April? He’ll definitely need people to help out.

Break:

Program Part 2:  Tri Trogs see that it’s hard to get loopy

During the discussion of other business Ken analyzed the results from the survey earlier in the evening and then gave a brief presentation on the basics of survey, some tricks, and what makes it tricky. Here the results you’ve been patiently anticipating all month long!  Carlin requests that no one be judged for their caving abilities based on these results. 




The moral of the story is – being able to close loops is really important and really difficult, especially with short high angle shots (and stray magnetic fields!) 

Friday, March 1, 2013

TriTrogs February 2013 General Meeting


Introductions/Attendees:

Martin G., Mark D., Pete H., Dianna G., Jacob J., Carlin K., Ken W., Rob the floating head (aka  Space Lord), Howard H. came too!


Old business:     
We discussed the minutes from the officer’s meeting

In response to the officers deciding that the membership list be removed from the website some people would like hard copies of it or perhaps PDF copies of it.  Decided we would talk to Mark Little about how to best go about disseminating member info

Martin finally received his awards from the X-mas party, two thumbs off award for his uncanny ability to slice his fingers while doing seemingly harmless tasks and also the Youth Group Leader Award (for his demonstration of the delicate and polite use of very important words they’ve probably never heard before!)


New Business:
Discussed giving the instruments and helmet to Tanya
Dianna brought some old stuff caving publications for us young folk to fight over

Trip Reports:

Higgenbothms # 4 with Martin, Ken, Jacob and Erika
They got pulled over in the hotel parking lot for making an unsignaled turn, but escaped the wrath of the law despite a lack of proof of registration and insurance
Jacob says it was a very pretty cave, cool formations, set up 7 or 8 good shots
Jacob was excited for the opportunity to take his car off-roading
Ken posted pics on the web and photoshopped them a little

Carlin discussing his trip this past weekend to Smith County
Carlin, Jacob, Dave D., Dawson, and James Armstrong (new guy)
Originally Carlin and Jacob were going to go ridgewalking/exploring Wythe county trying to find new stuff, but Thursday night Dave D. hopped on the trip, decided to switch to Buchanan Salt Peter.  Landowner was already at the cave, left Carlins at 6 am Saturday, started at marble cave then to Buch. Salt Peter.  Very spectacular, large passages, one little climb and one little crawl.  (WHY DO WE GO TO COLDSINK !?!?!) Scouted some other stuff after the cave, hung out with Tanya in the evening, headed back Sunday

Rob went to SERA and Cumberland caverns, it was a commercial cave with lots of passage for more exploration (38 miles? Not sure if that’s the right number). He met a guy who was on storm stories for being in a flooding cave who he was trapped and had to get rescued, he thought it was cool to talk to him. He went with Lee Olson from South Carolina.  Used a figure 8 for some drops it was fun. 

Ava explored some old aqueducts underneath New York City.  That was very cool.

Diana brought up using dowsing sticks to find things (like caves/holes/water etc.).  Ava was very skeptical but Ken thought it was extremely funny and entertaining to annoy Ava by continually bringing up the topic.  For more info on the lack of scientific evidence supporting dowsing see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing

Upcoming trips:

March 8-10 = orientation to cave rescue
March 22-24th = Surveying in Smyth County – possibly Doanes?
March 29-31 = Easter – Grand Caverns restoration weekend
May 17-19 = spring VAR
Rob may try to get a new castle murder hole on Easter weekend—keep bothering him so he actually does it!

Ken started surveying New River Cave back in the 90s, but now will have the opportunity to finish it up.  Map has been drafted, Ken has been asked to lead trips back in there to clean up and finish up survey, resurvey a little bit.  Going to try to get trips up there the 1st and 3rd weekends of the months. Hopefully the first trip will be in April? He’ll definitely need people to help out.

Break:

Program: 
Carlin gave a presentation on things he doesn’t know and isn’t allowed to share about his experiences in the area where there are no caves to speak of.  It was called Caving in Arizona.

Then the group headed to Armadillo Grill for a final farewell to Jacob.  We’ll miss him a ton!  

Wednesday, February 27, 2013

2012 TriTrog Grotto Awards Revealed


Much like Hollywood's Oscars, February is the time to officially announce the awards for the previous year, at least for those who missed the Bodacious Red Carpet (worn as a Santa hat) affair known as the Annual Triangle Troglodytes Holiday Party.  
       At last night's meeting we finally got to give the final 2 awards in person to the esteemed victim, I mean honoree.     
     And so with further ado, and for anyone who missed them or wants to relive them, the 2012 TriTrog Grotto Awards ! !   :  
 
 
1)  Carlin, Jacob, Ava, and Ken were standing outside a gas station at midnight, almost to the Fall VAR.  The convenience store lights went out, but we were still a member short.  The front door was locked so we weren’t sure about our driver who was still in the bathroom.  A minute or two later the remaining TriTrog emerged, found an attendant, and escaped the building.  Because she remembered to carry her headlamp into the bathroom, we award Diana Gietl- for being prepared for any bathroom situation, the
 
 
 
 Most Well Equipped Caver Award
The Triangle Troglodytes, 
 A Distinguished and Official Grotto of the
National Speleological Society 
Do Hereby Present 
This Honorable and Facetious  
Actual Award to
Diana Gietl
 
For carrying a backup light into even the darkest of Convenience Store Bathrooms, above and beyond the call of Duty.   Or whatever she was doing in there. 
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended.
Signed     ___________L. Gaga______________         
 
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 2) The next award goes to a sharp pair of individuals whose exploits go to Infiniti and beyond. 2 Guys who really held it together, with duct tape and super glue, and kept our first aid supplies from going stale, we honor Martin Groenewegen for slicing his finger while preparing dinner and Rob Harris for smashing his digit in his own car door.  To the pair, we give the [hold up right fists] Two Thumbs Off award.  Close the doors gently!  For skewering their hands we award
  
  Two Thumbs Off Award
 
The Triangle Troglodytes,
A Distinguished and Official Grotto of the 
National Speleological Society
Do Hereby Present
This Honorable and Facetious 
Actual Award to 
Martin Groenewegen and Rob Harris 
 
for attacking their own hands with ordinary everyday objects in the heretofore safe zones known as “camp.”  
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended. 
Signed     ___________L. Jack Horner________________  
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 3)  Our local Brewme-aster, I mean webmaster, was implicated in our punniest award.  He smuggled beer bottles out of Germany and brought them expertly re-filled to western Virginia for us to imbibe.  To Mike Broome we raise our glasses in tribute to his Pint of No Return.  We hope that the next draught on tap is the map of Copenhaver’s. 
 
Pint of No Return Award 
Mike “Brew-man” Broome
 
 for expertly and bravely recycling beer bottles smuggled from East Germany and with improved contents to share among TriTrogs. 
 
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4) This next person is never Aiken to get out of the caves.  He’ll just drum and sing with a sub-lime voice while he’s waiting for Ken to sketch or Carlin to take photos.  Therefore, we honor Jacob Jackson with the American Cave Idol award.
 
American Cave Idol Award
 
Jacob Jackson 
for his sub-lime (stone) crooning.  He knows how to idle away the slow times.
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5)  Our Youth Group Leader award goes to an individual who would teach young people many phrases they’ve never heard before while traveling underground.  The award goes to Martin Groenewegen for his colorful language in tight spots.
 
Youth Group Leadership Award
 
Martin Groenewegen 
for his colorful, multi hued, spectrally enhanced language in the face of scary youth.   “Damn, we’re in a tight spot.”
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6)  Is a cave conservation trip about the laborers hauling buckets of gravel a half mile into the cave?  Apparently not.  At Grand Caverns, the reporters and photographers flock to Bithika Khargharia.  So for Bithika, we award the  
 
 Seeking the Lime(stone) Light Award
 
Bithika Khargharia 
for seeking the Lime(stone) Light and wowing the reporters at Grand Caverns Cave Conservation Weekend.   It was a rocking good time and buckets of fun.  
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended.
Signed     ____SkeetsMiller       
                     
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7)  You may have thought that our little oompah loompah deserves a tribute to salamander obsession.  However, Ava Pope (in trailer park fashion) was responsible for organizing a unique event this past year.  We’d like to thank her for creating an opportunity for the TriTrogs to meet the world famous Roger Brucker...’s poodles...and his wife.  For this, we’re awarding Ava with the Dog and Pony Show award.
 
Dog and Pony Show
 
 Ava Pope
 
for arranging for the TriTrogs to meet Roger Brucker’s poodles.  And tour their fabulous home on wheels, packed with enough spare room to make Cold Sink crawls seem Spacious.  Where will the dogs ride?
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8)  Only one TriTrog took enough risks at Convention to earn the next award.  In fact, his entire tent blew away and is still missing so we’re honoring Rob Harris with the High Stakes Award. 
 
High Stakes Award 
Rob Harris
 
for his tent which was (and still is for all we know) Flying High at the 2012 NSS Convention.  There’s no place like home (left) for your ruby red cave boots. 
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended.
Signed     ___________Guy Weyer______Dorothy Gale__________   
 
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9) Our next award is for the Animal Lover.  You may think we picked him for such a great presentation on cave biology, but that’s not it.  You may think it’s because he talked the TriTrogs into working at BugFest, but that’s not it.  You may think it’s because he’ll sit for an hour observing cave flies, but that’s not it.  We’re giving Pete Hertl the Animal Lover award because he invites TriTrogs over to his place every night at dusk to feed his pets...the mosquitoes. 
 
Animal Lover Award
 
Peter Hertl
 
for bringing TriTrogs home to feed his pet mosquitoes.  All 18,379,932,437,741 of them. 
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended.
Signed     _____K. T_.Didd________________
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10)  After a caving trip, other party members look at me and say "I've got to clean my face." I know what that means. Another grotto member seems to elicit the same comments. The face is marked by a stripe across the forehead creating a sort of unibrow. Hence the moniker Oompah Loompah has been shared with her to denote the menacing look she takes on. From the TriTrogs, we'd like to award German-speaking Ava 'the Cava' Pope with
 
The Burrowed Frau Award 
Ava 'the Cava' Pope
for her muddy unibrow.  Gotta hand it to her- a baby wipe that is.
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11) We do joke about the single-minded determination of one grotto member and the fact that he drags other people into his obsession. Drag is the appropriate word, but I think that everyone here recognizes that it’s an accomplishment to lead up a major cave survey effort.  In a cave where most of the survey stations are less than two feet from the floor, we really are impressed that Carlin Kartchner has convinced so many people to survey more than 4300 feet of passage in Cold Sink Cave in less than a year.  For his accomplishment, we offer the : 
 
Motivational Speaker Award
 
Carlin Kartchner
 
for leading the 2011-2012 major cave survey into Cold Sink Cave.  It’s a dirty job, but everybody's got to do it.   How about this weekend? 
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012, just before the Mayan World Ended.
Signed     ________Sir Faye Statience
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12) And Finally, a true honor, which sets the joking aside.  
        One morning at Fall VAR Tanya McLaughlin wandered bleary-eyed up to the TriTrog camp, complaining of someone yelling drunkenly outside her tent all night long.  Four weeks later Carlin rounded up Cold Sink victims, and the shouter joined the surveyors.  Tanya recognized the voice but still graciously offered up her home as a place to sleep on a cold night.  They got along well when all were sober.  This is just one recent example of the generosity that Tanya has shown in the caving community.
       Tanya joined the TriTrogs back in 1990. She was the first person to say “I’ll run for office if you pay my dues” and get a free membership paid for by Nadi Findikli.  For years she served as a TriTrog officer. 
     When she was nearing retirement, the VSS was looking for a county director for Smyth County in Virginia.  The files contained just a few cave maps back then, but Tanya has added more than two dozen maps to the files.  When Tanya moved to Marion in 2002, she actively began seeking out new landowners and became known as the "Cave Lady of Smyth County."  She has also played a key role in planning many of our conservation trips.  The TriTrogs have never been short of new cave to explore since Tanya started her role as the county director for the VSS, and she has always offered us a place to stay.
      For these and so many other things, the TriTrog officers bestowed upon Tanya McLaughlin a very unique and completely serious award.  Tanya was granted Lifetime membership for her lifetime achievement in making the TriTrogs a successful grotto.
 
Lifetime Achievement Award 
 
The Triangle Troglodytes,
A Distinguished and Official Grotto of the  
National Speleological Society 
Do Hereby Award 
 
Tanya McLaughlin
 
For  Initiative, Hospitality, Generosity, Inquisitiveness, Leadership and Immeasurable Contributions to the Grotto and to Caving in Smyth County, Virginia .
 
This award by unanimous approval of the officers here signed, confers Lifetime Membership in the Grotto, paid in full in good standing.   
 
Presented this day, December 1, 2012
Signed     _____Carlin Kartchner (Chair), Ken Walsh (Vice Chair), Mark Little (Treasurer), Mike Broome (Webmaster), Mark Daughtridge (Secretary)

Tuesday, February 26, 2013

TriTrogs Officer Meeting-Feb 2013


02-04-2013
TriTrogs Officer Meeting Agenda
Carlin’s Apartment
Meeting started at 7:05 p.m.

Mark D, Mark L., Carlin K., Mike B. and Ava P. in attendance


Agenda:

1) What we want covered in general meetings/the generic agenda. It has
been suggested we start our meetings with the program rather than end with it.


Carlin likes the idea—better time management, will help keep the other stuff from dragging on
Mike would like things to start on time
Mark D. suggests sending agenda out ahead of time to encourage timeliness
Ava- would newcomers be more interested if we have a program first? Maybe a set time limit on programs?
Mark L. – maybe newcomers would not be enticed by presentations first, would rather interact with grotto members more, important to do introductions with new people
Set a time limit on trip reports?  We will do a trip report survey initially to establish appropriate time limit for each meeting.

It was decided that we would tentatively try a new order of operations as follows (with a 30 min suggested limit on programs):
Introductions from 7:30 to 7:40, then program, then everything else

2) Program ideas for 2013 -- Need 10 total, 30 minute max?

Tentative ideas for the year (not chronological):
Carlin on Arizona
Carlin on Cold Sink
Mike and Lisa on Mexico
Peter on Caravan Etiquette (we think this is a joke but not sure)
Ken on Cartography?
Cave Geology? – Ava will email geology professor, or if anyone else has connections let one of the officers know
Danny on first aid? Mark D. will ask him. 
Mark has a NOVA film on caves, or maybe film from NSS library
Mark (interest in Fungus presentation?)
Outside person on something cave related via skype? Possibly Will Orndorff?

3) Grotto trip date and destination

Carlin suggests June/July for grotto trip.  For the annual grotto trip officers decided on the weekend of July 13-14.  For now we’re planning on Union Cave (will ask Ken about getting access).  If Union doesn’t work out then possibly Bone-Norman.  Camping options include Dave D.’s place in WV or other yet-to-be-determined campgrounds outside of Lewisburg.

5) Location and date preferences for a cleanup trip

Based on dates for other events/trips October 19/20th seems like it will work
We will talk to Tanya about ideas, would like to keep it in Smyth County

4) Update from the loaner gear and library custodian (any needs
expressed)

From Mike: The new Princeton Tec headlamps have been loaned out and taken on a few trips, and so far them seem to be working out pretty well.  We might want to get one more so we have the same number of loaner headlamps as helmets (4). Mike will order another one. (this has now been taken care of)

6) PO box -- should we eliminate it?            

It was agreed on that we do not need a PO box.
Mark L. will take care of getting rid of the PO box and have stuff temporarily forwarded to his address
Mike will remove the PO box info from the website

10) Donations to charities this year

Officers decided that the annual donation to the museum will be $100

12) How should we use our grotto funds?

From Mark L: We have suggestions for charitable contributions every year. But I             would like more discussion of how we can use our dues income in the service of          members, and in ways that will promote more caving and more participation in             the grotto.

Other officers agree, use grotto money for caving(ie. Grotto trip!)/purchasing group gear (replacement canopy, lights, etc.) to facilitate more caving!


7) Vertical training program?
Things that would be included:
A monthly grotto meeting dedicated to intro to vertical techniques to spur interest in getting people vertically active, this would be followed by several outside meetings to get familiar with on-rope experience.  We would like to do this once the weather gets a little bit better (possibly have the program at the April meeting? We will talk to Pete about setting up at his place)

Some topics would include:
Knotwork with gloves/without gloves?
NSS vertical skills checklist?

8) Plans for the NSS Convention
         
Get a canopy before convention- Ken found a good one that will actually fit in cars without much hassle. Ken can you go ahead and order it?  I guess I should send you an email.

Officers planning to attend:
Carlin is going
Mark D. is going
Others are not sure


9) Plans for and status of the web site

Notes from Mike B.(webmaster):

1) One thing I'd like to do is to add in more social media.  Add a Twitter
account.  Use the various media channels - web site, FB, Google+,
Twitter - to announce meetings with more lead time.  For that to be
effective, we'd need to know what the presentation topics are at least a
couple weeks or a month in advance.  But I think this would help keep
people reminded and interested in coming to the meetings.

Mike is going to take a stab at the social media aspect of advertising our grotto, maybe Rob would be interested in helping since he’s into facebook and could help remotely?

2) Membership list on the website? Do we want this? Is it too much to keep up with? Right now are names and numbers from 2009.

Officers agreed that we should remove the list from the website in an effort to keep the site up to date

3) Get constitution by-laws updated on the website, we’re not sure if they actually got changed.

Mike has latest ones, he will send them out and we can agree on them.  Mark (not sure which one) suggested having a copy of the membership form on the website and having it fill-inable online.  Mike will look into this.

4) Maybe remove the flaming pumpkin from the website blog?

We think it scares people.  Officers agreed to remove it, Mike will take care of the flaming pumpkin removal


11) From Mark L. addressing membership:
Is there anything more we can do to attract new people to visit our meetings or come on a caving trip with us? Are there things we could do to encourage people who
have visited our meetings or who have tried a caving trip to take the next step and join the grotto?
How do we do this? Make beginner trips and hope they come? Or find beginners and play around with them. 

Officers will try some new outside advertisement-- Ava will contact The Rock Club at NC State and put up flyers up at climbing gym at UNC . Tell your friends how cool we are!

12) Other business????
Someone should build a squeeze box, any volunteers?

Wednesday, February 13, 2013

TriTrogs January 2013 General Meeting

The Month the Mayans Never Saw Coming

Attendance:  One Dozen Cavers:  Jacob, Ava, Mike Broome, Lisa L,  Nicholas H, Tim Vaughn, Matthew Weiss, Mark D, Peter H, Mark L,  Ben , Carlin
 
Matthew told his human squirrel story of tearing tendon from bone in his shoulder, which sadly will have him out of caving for a while and wearing a cumbersome brace/sling.   But he still operates a mean slide one armed slide show.  
  
Old Business:
Award presented to Mike B since he missed the holiday party, and we reported on the presentation of the Lifetime Achievement award we made to Tanya at her house on the last Cold Sink trip.  
Payment of dues to Mark L by many.
Canopy looks nice in the photos, to be decided on soon
Holiday party was fun
  
New Business:
Election of Officers for 2013!
Minutes of discussion and much campaigning costing way less than $2B resulted in the following slate being duly elected:
Officers for 2013 Triangle Troglodytes are  (drum roll . . . )
  • Chair:  Carlin Kartchner
  • Vice Chair:  Mark Daughtridge
  • Secretary:  Ava Pope
  • Treasurer: Mark Little
  • Web Master: Mike Broome
 (Or was that Ava Secretary elected as Pope?)
 
Trip Reports:
Carlin and his brother visited an AZ cave, well hidden under brush, over Christmas break.  Showed a few pictures 
Rowland's vertical pictures from November shown by Carlin
 
Matthew showed cool pictures from Worley's TN - Beautiful pictures w cool camera gear.  Including rim stone /Flowstone area.  Discussed photography techniques
Also pictures from Smokehole, cool pics with cool lighting
Demoed new light he built over Christmas  2.5 hours very bright
 
Carlin described the recent Cold Sink survey trip- 5100 ft total, still a shade under 1 mile (5280 ft)! 4 teams on last trip with 14 cavers total, one more trip to cleanup , one crawl dig that is unlikely to go.  Sadly would need major digging or smaller feet to stretch it to a full mile.  
 
Ava talked about two small caves at bottom of Grand Canyon, an exact Christmas tree formation which later was found listed on the map as the Christmas Tree cave.  The trip was at New Years but it's one stone tree that's up year round.
 
Little cave at Schoolhouse Rocks, goes 2 directions, Dave Duguid and "the Virginia Lisa" did quick survey, lying in 4 inches of water. Found monorail worm saw a mouse. 
 
Carlin back to Memorial Day Cave 3 day camp trip, need vertical surveyors.  It's a vertical jungle gym.  Decorated well, protected some formations w plastic
Did some survey in breakdown, there are 70 to 89 ft ceiling in areas under the camp room.  More leads and pits remain.  Getting to camp takes 3 hours or so.  It's a 5 hr drive in WV
 
Mike B showed a few short videos from the Mexico trip.  Mike plans to do a full and more formal program on the trip at a later meeting.  Very cool rappelling video including dropping a hitchhiking bit of vegetation and racing it to the bottom.
Lisa, Peter and Mike went with VBATS group 14 total.  Rob H was there on a separate trip w VPI
Most drove, Mike and Lisa flew.  50 hour drive!
5 days of caving,rental car antenna got stolen.  1st car had no engine so traded it.
Rain 3 of 4 days, very slick in cave. 200' to 1150' pits. 4400 ft total over 4 vertical days
Golindrinas, near Aquismon town
All limestone
One rig was on biting ants nest! One pit is 7 acres wide at bottom!
 
 
Due to elections and the many excellent trip reports since our last (non party) meeting in November we did not have a formal Program this meeting.   
We also forgot to talk about upcoming trips, so please see the calendar on the website for that info.
 
Adjourned at 9:06 to a local watering and tacoing establishment. 

Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Triangle Troglodytes November 2012 General Meeting

Nov 27, 2012
Attendees :  Ken, Carlin, Ava, Leslie S, Nick, Jacob, Peter, Scott Rucci, Rob Harris (in the form of millions of pixels), Steve and Grant M., and Mark D your mostly harmless grotto Secretary
  12 Triangle cavers total plus Dr. Lee Stocks for our virtual program.

Leslie presented a card to Carlin in thanks for his talk to the Explorers of Venture Post 505

Program
Still full from abundant Thanksgiving feasts we inverted our normal order and began with the progam.   
 Dr Lee Stocks spoke on urbanization impacts on caves.  
Since it works so well for Rob we had Dr. Stocks join us via Video Conference from his home in Mansfield, PA, though on the big screen we found that audio was best when we didn't press for actual video of the good doctor.  Soon our entire meeting will exist solely within the Matrix. 

1993 photo to start of Cow Dung Pit before airport expanded and changed creek route. Effects of sediment, pollution , etc,
Greenbrier county map showing creeks etc resurgence at Davis spring 15 mi south
Worked with WVACS to study urban and residential development
Water quality and quantity studied on surface and sub. Bio diversity changed underground. Evidence of runoff, leaky septic systems, agriculture
Greenbrier river- most algae affected in WV.
20 miles of cave Cove Creek to Scott entrance. Put in culvert to stop entrance repeatedly reclosing.
Site survey, bio assessment etc
Sink holes full of trash etc. 
Technical entrance at cove creek and 60 ft waterfall in cave so did not include inaccessible spots but went downstream from them.
Pictures of land slides, erosion, new sink holes and swamps formed
4 categories of streams for supporting life. Cover, sediment, etc play into score. Established baseline and study will continue for several more years
Some seasonal variation too.
Shows signs of becoming less habitable and EPA standards show it should be scrutinized.
Study chemistry of water nitrates, oxygen, some exceeding nitrates standards, 2x appropriate level. Less nitrates in cave, but still too high. Also concerns for drinking.  turbidities.
Evidenced leaky septic and agriculture E. coli unacceptable for swimming or drinking
Quantify levels of disturbance for karst from various activities such as house groundbreaking
No coal mining in the county.
Impervious surfaces increased runoff. Karst disturbance Index.
Conservation efforts impact
Score of .62 moderately disturbed
Geospatial Aerial and sattelitte photos
Disturbed highly erodible soils. Urban fill too.  Sediment.
100 MHz antenna to find structural fractures etc. does not penetrate as far as cave that is known just below the sink. ~60 ft penetration
Worse water and less of it. Alkaline, nitrates etc worse
Universal soil loss study desired.
Started study in 2011. Runs as long as it is interesting and funded. 

Break 

Old BusinessNo update on canopy, lights are in hand
Pete told of web site w good canopy. Northern hydraulic
 
New BusinessHoliday party this weekend (More than a dozen confirmed)
Join the NSS!!
PO box $80 a year, only one piece of mail this year
 
Trip reportsWorleys. Surveyed 300 ft to end map with .5 miles of cave- muddy, wet, low and tight with a new short waterfall climb lead that did not go.  
Rowland's fun vertical, great contrast to the tight, low crawls of Worley's
Hancock 2,4, 8 bats in surveys each of last 3 years. Had found 50 dead when WNS first hit
Not known if fungus dormant, bats resistance or other, but counts do seem to be increasing slowly.

Photo trip. Rob, Jacob, Ken, Hilda, Mathew- Smokehole Cave at bat ranch
Good pictures, tried video at end of slip and slide section
 
Upcoming TripsCold sink Jan 12
Dave thinking of just doing cold sink and not organizing an end of year trip

Meeting Ended at 8:58
 Group went to a local watering hole to eat as if Thanksgiving had never even happened.